5 March 2012

Leveson Inquiry: Hearings - Module 2 - Press/Police - Day 5


Lord Justice Leveson
   "The focus of the Inquiry is ‘the culture, practices and ethics of the press’ in the context of the latter’s relationship with the public, the police and politicians. All of these matters overlap, and my goal must be to consider what lessons, if any, may be learned from past events and what recommendations, if any, should be made for the future, in particular as regards press regulation, governance and other systems of oversight."
Module 2
 
"The relationship between the press and the police and the extent to which that has operated in the public interest."

Useful Links:
Leveson Inquiry Witness Statements HERE 
Leveson Inquiry Witness Lists HERE 
Video Recordings of each day's proceedings HERE
Live Feed From Leveson Inquiry Site HERE
BBC Democracy Live Feed HERE 
Telegraph Live Blog HERE
Guardian Live Blog HERE

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 Links to today's articles, blogs, comment and information relevant to the Leveson Inquiry:
Garnham: Have found briefing paper on Op Caryatid sent to the Home Office (mentioned by Peter Clarke)to be provided to the inquiry.
Garnham: Trying to obtain paper prepared by Richard Reilly, a civil servant, for Home Sec in 2006.
  • From Guardian Live Blog, 10:04 a.m.:
The inquiry has now begun.
Neil Garnham, the Met's QC, says former DAC Peter Clarke said last week that the police had briefed John Reid about the 2006 phone-hacking investigation when he was home secretary.
Garnham says a Met briefing paper, dated 9 August 2006, has now been unearthed and will be given to Robert Jay QC, counsel to the inquiry.
He says a personal briefing paper, written by PPS Richard Riley and with the same date, also exists, and will be tracked down.

Lisa O'Carroll:
civil servant who prepared report on hacking for home sec in 2006 was private secretary to permanent secretary

From Sir Paul Stephenson's Witness Statement:
On several occasions after Operation Weeting had started and I had returned from sick leave, the Chair of the MPA, Kit Malthouse, expressed a view that we should not be devoting this level of resources to the phone hacking inquiry as a consequence of a largely political and media-driven "level of hysteria".
Whilst understanding his desire to maximise the resources devoted to current issues of crime and public safety, I pointed out that the disclosure requirements arising from the civil cases left us with little choice but to invest significant resources in servicing this matter. Additionally the nature of some of the revelations of media behaviour, particularly towards vulnerable members of the public, made a reopening of the investigation inevitable, from an operational viewpoint.
  • 12:46 p.m.: Labour MP Chris Bryant has just tweeted:
  • 2:10 p.m. : The Guardian's Patrick Wintour has just tweeted:
  • Guardian Live Blog 2:28 p.m. :
Labour MP Chris Bryant has called for Kit Malthouse, the deputy Mayor of London, to resign after it emerged that he repeatedly urged Sir Paul Stephenson to scale back Operation Weeting last year.Bryant said in a statement:
Today's revelation at the Leveson inquiry by the former Met commissioner about the actions of Boris Johnson's deputy makes it clear that from the highest political level Johnson and Malthouse have intentionally sought to close down the phone-hacking investigation.
In 2010 Boris Johnson called phone hacking 'a load of codswallop cooked up by the Labour party' and 'a song and dance about nothing'. Now we discover his deputy, Kit Malthouse, personally intervened with the Police Commissioner to argue for reduced resources for the inquiry and attacked the story as 'hysteria'. This amounts to a clear political intervention designed to intimidate the Met into dropping an investigation. Considering that the investigation has thus far uncovered bribery of police officers by the Sun, mass criminality at the News of the World and a deliberate attempt to pervert the course of justice by News International, both Boris Johnson and Kit Malthouse's interventions show that they are more interested in protecting their cronies than in pursuing justice.
In any other country this kind of political manipulation would be considered wholly unacceptable and corrupt. It is no longer possible for Londoners to have confidence in the Met with Kit Malthouse sitting at the top table. Kit Malthouse should either resign or Boris Johnson should be forced to sack him.
  • From Guardian Live Blog 3:53 p.m. :
Lib Dem mayoral candidate Brian Paddick has issued a statement on Sir Paul Stephenson's evidence to the inquiry that Kit Malthouse expressed the view that the Met was devoting to many resources to the phone-hacking inquiry:
It is quite right for the Mayor's deputy on policing to question the commissioner as to the level of resources devoted to an investigation. However, once the commissioner has answered, for Kit Malthouse to continue pressuring the Met to back away from phone hacking is political interference with the commissioner's operational independence.
  • From Guardian Live Blog 4:03 p.m.:

A spokesperson for Kit Malthouse, the London deputy mayor, has issued the following statement:
The job of the chair of the MPA and now, the deputy mayor for policing, is to question and probe the resource allocation decisions of the commissioner in order to secure an efficient and effective police force for London.

It was entirely proper, as Paul Stephenson indicated this morning, for Kit Malthouse to probe the reasoning behind the allocation of resources into the phone hacking inquiry. Mr Malthouse has questioned the allocation of resources by the MPS in any number of areas, including knife crime, rape, murder and gangs. His job is to hold the commissioner to account.


The mayor has made it clear that the phone-hacking investigation has to be pursued relentlessly and thoroughly.
  • From Guardian Live Blog:
 Media veteran Andrew Neil has just tweeted:
and:
and:
Now had further confirmation on Murdoch-Salmond talks. Those of you calling it gossip or speculation wrong. It's a story!

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      Monday 5th March
       Link to (Module 2) Hearing 4 HERE

      Today's Witnesses:
      Roger Baker ( HM Inspectorate of Constabulary )
      Elizabeth Filkin
      Sir Paul Stephenson ( Former MPS )


      Roger Baker











        
      Witness Statement in Full


      HMIC - Profile of Roger Baker 

      Telegraph Live Blog HERE
      Guardian Live Blog HERE

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Baker was chief constable of Essex police from 2005 to 2009. Before that, he was deputy chief constable of North Yorkshire police for two years, with responsibility for performance, crime and operations, audit, review and inspection. From 2001 to 2003, Baker was assistant chief constable of Staffordshire police, with responsibility for territorial policing, crime and operations. Baker was HMIC lead for the Without Fear Or Favour report, published in December 2011, into police integrity.
      Jay says there are two wings of thinking in police dealings with the press: the "austere wing" and the "expansive wing". He says Baker falls into the former camp.Baker says he has no objection to being described as "austere".

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker: Didn't accept any hospitality from media other than tea, coffee or water. No meals or alcohol.
      : Not sure how the inquiry would feel if there was a bottle...Baker: Of fine champagne? Jay: It might go more quickly.
      Baker: There is an issue whether on duty or off as police office drinking alcohol. My view is not on the public purse.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Baker says he is "not a huge fan" of off-the-record briefings but that sometimes there is a limited place for them.He says that in his four years at Essex police he never gave one off-the-record briefing that could not be attributed to him. "Off-the-record contact should be limited, in my view," he adds.
      He mentions one occasion where he told the media things about a manhunt that he did not want them to publish for two days.

      Billo:
      It is worth noting hearing Baker the complete contrast of approach by two different police authorities, neighbouring ones at that.


      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker: There's a scale issue, Met do some top-end business interesting to media, but is relevant in other parts of the country.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker statement: Always recorded meetings with press and took member of PR department.
      Baker: Major role for investigative journalism to hold police to account but are ways of doing that by asking questions.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Baker says officers should keep a record of discussions with the media "so that there can be a record of it to safeguard the public".
      He agrees with the recommendation made in Filkin's report.
      The police are accustomed with dealing with secret intelligence that would be dangerous if it entered the public domain, he says, arguing that officers already know where to draw the line in discussions with journalists.
      Baker says it would be appropriate for an officer to have an off-the-record conversation with journalists if it was to prevent a major investigation being scuppered by the media.
      He says that investigative journalism is "very healthy".
      The police are accustomed with dealing with secret intelligence that would be dangerous if it entered the public domain, he says, arguing that officers already know where to draw the line in discussions with journalists.


      says he sees his work as "complementary" to Baker's report.
      - Hacking Inquiry


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Lord Justice Leveson tells Baker that he wants the findings of his inquiry to fit with what the policeman thinks will work.
      He says he is not concerned with the prospect of Baker "treading on my toes" and sees the inspectorate's work as "complementary" to his own.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker: Spoke to a lot of people, from CRA to Hacked Off to academics, to try and get a view on the most suitable recommendations. 
      Baker: There needs to be a real clarity on what is appropriate and what isn't. If no clarity on rules you can't regulate.

      Ross Hawkins:
      HMIC's Roger Baker at #leveson : if you make organisational changes you're quite likely to be reading about it in the media
      HMIC's Roger Baker at #leveson : police struggling to keep in front or apace of social media
      HMIC's Roger Baker at #leveson : (on police and social media) some parts of your private life are best kept public
      HMIC's Roger Baker at #leveson : s/one ided as working for police force had photo of self "minus appropriate clothing" on Facebook
      HMIC's Roger Baker at #leveson : wasn't done with malice, just stupidity, but impact on force

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Baker says that the police are struggling to keep apace of social media. He says that some social media accounts could jeopardise the professional image of the police force.His report found that there were "no great checks or balances" with how police officers are using websites such as Twitter and Facebook.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker: Exposing your genitals and identifying yourself as member of "Xshire" police not corporate image you want to put across.


      Hacking Inquiry:
      Baker: Hospitality registers across England/Wales showed 9600 entries in five years, less than one percent relating to media.

      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Baker looked at second jobs for police officers. He says these were generally felt to be acceptable, providing there were no conflicts of interest.
      4.06pm: Baker says that his Without Fear or Favour team did speak to officers behind Operation Elveden and Weeting, but did not want to interfere with their ongoing investigations.
      Without Fear or Favour halted "data gathering" for the report in September last year, before its publication in December.
      Leveson asks about the differences in policy between regional forces outside the Met.
      Baker says there is very little commonality in terms of policy between the forces; this is also the case with the Northern Irish force. He adds that there is an "intensity" regarding the Met due to the pressures of the London media.


      Elizabeth Filkin



      Telegraph Live Blog HERE
      Guardian Live Blog HERE

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin is asked about her report, Ethical Issues Arising from the Relationship Between Police and Media, published in January. She was asked to compile the report by Stephenson.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      : Your work foreshadows some of what I have to do. Would be in order for me to use what's been said to you for purpose of inquiry.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin says she put out a request for evidence on the Met intranet, and also spoke to staff groups, politicians and journalists. 
      The vast majority of police officers who spoke to Filkin were "embarrassed" and concerned that public trust was being undermined by revelations in the phone-hacking scandal, she says.
      Guardian journalist Nick Davies raised concerns with the Met's Department of Public Affairs on several occasions that the body was giving him inaccurate information, Filkin says.
      She adds that Davies raised evidence of phone hacking with the department during the course of his investigations.
      hearing about Sun journo's statement to Filkin that he has 300-400 police contacts on phone; 100-150 "happy to talk"

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay asks about key problems identified by Filkin in the relationship between the media and the Met police.
      Filkin said in the report that there was evidence of "improper disclosure" of information from police officers to journalists. She says that some officers gave anecdotal evidence of that.
      Police officers who spoke to Filkin were "highly shocked" at the amount of hospitality received by senior members of the force from the media, says Filkin.She adds:
      Many many of the lower ranked people … felt that people were filling their boots. And that was a very general view.
      The Met police has not done enough to create "a challenge environment," Filkin says. The force does not encourage officers to challenge colleagues or established thinking.
      "There is obvious a tradition … of people getting on and doing what they're told and that can be in conflict with creating the sort of organisation where people feel valued if they give a different opinion. That does lead in some instances to defensiveness," she adds.

      IndexLeveson:
      Filkin suggests contact between police and press be recorded



      Hacking Inquiry:
      Filkin: Some crime journalists feel they haven't been allowed into CRA.


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin says she does not think her recommendations will stop all unregulated contact between press and police, but hopes it will make the occasions less frequent and more formal.
      Some journalists felt they had been "cut out of the club" by the police, says Filkin. Foe example, some crime journalists felt they were unfairly excluded from the Crime Reporters' Association.
      Filkin is asked about hospitality received by senior Met officers.
      She says there was a lot of hospitality given to officers by newspapers owned by News International.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Filkin: The DPA favoured some journalists and would trade, and on occasion cause harm. 


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin refers to a "trade" of information from the Met's DPA in exchange for reporters keeping stories out of the papers.Leveson asks if the DPA were acting as if they were a newsroom of reporters, giving out information rather than providing an impartial public affairs role.
      Filkin says they certainly were involved in "trading" information, but that the situation has now improved.

      Hacking Inquiry:
       Filkin: Whole list of things I would say people dealing with media should be aware of, so they can operate sound judgment

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Almost all police officers who spoke to Filkin told her that the Met was harmed by leaks to the press."Certainly people within the Metropolitan police service felt it did them harm," she says.
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      14.20 Dame Filkin suggests action should be taken against anyone with access to leaked information if no one owns up.
      Lord Justice Leveson remarks, "it sounds a bit like school".

      IndexLeveson:
      Filkin says Met loath to tell staff they are carrying out inquiries into leaks


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin says there should be more scrutiny of former employees working for the Met as consultants.Filkin acknowledges it is a "real fear" that her recommendations could stifle legitimate communication between the Met police and the press.However, she says this "should not happen" if her proposals are fully adopted. "I'm not wishing to undermine proper scrutiny; quite the opposite," she says. "I don't at the moment see that that will be a particular problem."
      She says that "proper transparency" should be a priority for the Met.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Filkin: More access for press to police but this should be open and recorded.


      Guardian Live Blog:
      There will be some information that all Met police officers should be allowed to pass on to whomever they speak to, says Filkin."There should be clarity is about who is providing what [information to the press]," she adds.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Filkin: Some officers accepting money for stories felt they were treated like any other member of the public ringing up tabloids.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Filkin says that a number of journalists told her that one senior Met officer made it clear he favoured News International newspapers over others.
      The unnamed officer "was said to have set that tone and that style within that department and made it clear that some newspapers were favoured over others," she tells the inquiry.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Filkin: Key recommendation on off-the-record is talk to journalist and find out what that means before you start.



      Sir Paul Stephenson


       
      Telegraph Live Blog HERE
      Guardian Live Blog HERE



      IndexLeveson:
      Stephenson says negative media coverage during Sir Ian Blair's commissionership "distracting" for senior officers

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson says his predecessor Sir Ian Blair came under a lot of criticism from the media. "That was constantly distracting for senior officers," he says.He adds that when he took over as Met commissioner in 2009 he wanted to try and effect a situation that was more about what the police did than who they were as senior officers.

      Ross Hawkins:
      Stephenson at : very small number of senior officers gossiped or leaked about Met, was deeply unhelpful

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay says that Stephenson states in his written statement that some contact between some senior colleagues and the written media was "closer than he would have liked".
      Stephenson says he prefers not to name individuals, but there were some on the management board who gossiped and leaked to the press, creating a "dialogue of disharmony" that was "distracting".

      Ross Hawkins:
      Stephenson at : were stories in media about conversations at management board, can't imagine how they got there other than leaks

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson says he decided that a member of the Met's Directorate of Public Affairs (DPA) should be present when senior officers met the press."As a starting point I thought it was very helpful if matters came through the DPA ... that might discourage the gossiping … people being a bit too loose lipped," he says.
      He says that this did not stop a small minority making calls to the press.
      Asked about inquiries about leaks, Stephenson says: "Sometimes one would have a leak inquiry ... remind people of the leadership to do whatever it can to enforce standards of probity."
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      10.29 The number of leaks to the press reduced during Sir Paul's term as Commissioner, he tells the inquiry.

      There were less newspaper stories about disfunctionality in the Met. I don’t claim to be the most wonderful commissioner ever. I think I was extraordinarily lucky with the people I had on my team. When I spoke to junior officers, one of the most consistent questions can be split into two: can you not do more to manage the media? But secondly they deplored it when it was about senior officers at war.
      Stephenson. Written statement: 30% of all my media engagements were with News Int representatives.
      Lisa O'Carroll
      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson outlines his contacts with the media in his written statement.He says the feedback he got from the press and from the head of the DPA, Dick Fedorcio, was journalists complained that their rivals had got scoops.
      "The fact that the complaints seem to be mroe general seemed to be a more healthy situation, rather than complaints from one area of the media," he adds.
      Jay says in 2005 when Stephenson was deputy commissioner there was very few interactions with the press, and none with News International.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Sep 2006 appears to be first time Stephenson met Neil Wallis: he confirms it is probably that date. 
      Stephenson: Would discuss context of policing,government policy and resourcing in meetings with Wallis and some social interaction.
      Stephenson: I would say for every journalist I've ever met they would be delighted if I was indiscreet. My job to ensure I wasn't.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay says in 2006 there was a lunch with the Times in February, drinks with the Daily Mail in May, dinner with Neil Wallis and Dick Fedorcio on 19 September, and a Crime Reporters' Association Christmas party in December.In 2007 there was dinner with the Daily Mail, and another dinner with Wallis and Fedorcio (14 months after the previous dinner).
       
      dansabbagh Dan Sabbagh:  PS had dinner with Neil Wallis (NoW dep ed) on Sept 19 2006. (Backdrop: critical moment in the hacking investigation). 


      Telegraph Live Blog:
      10.35 Mr Jay is asking Sir Paul about his meetings with Neil Wallis, who was the then deputy editor of the News of the World.
      Asked about having dinner with him, he replies: "I don’t recall having dinner with Mr Wallis alone. It is possible but I don’t recall it."
      He refers to himself as an "exotic creature from the provinces" when he arrived at the Met, and so had fewer contacts in the press.
      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay says in 2006 there was a lunch with the Times in February, drinks with the Daily Mail in May, dinner with Neil Wallis and Dick Fedorcio on 19 September, and a Crime Reporters' Association Christmas party in December.
      In 2007 there was dinner with the Daily Mail, and another dinner with Wallis and Fedorcio (14 months after the previous dinner).
      Between February and May 2009, when Stephenson became commissioner, there was a large number of dinners with the media.
      Jay points out that Wallis did not claim expenses for some of his meetings with Wallis, for example on 10 December 2009. They are described in his diary as "a private dinner".
      Wallis says on some occasions he paid for the meals.
      Stephenson says he would describe Wallis as "an acquaintance" rather than "a friend" – "that would be taking it too far".
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      10.42 Sir Paul said it would be "extraordinarily naive" to believe a commissioner could prevent the press from reporting bad news. Mr Jay lists the lunches Sir Paul has had with journalists from national newspapers, and covers all but the Daily Express and the Star.
      On some occasions, the register of his engagement and expenses noted the lunches were "private" and "no expenses claimed".

      I don’t think we should read too much into the way my secretary managed by diary.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay says in 2011, there were no recorded entries as relating to News International, a couple of dinners relating to Murdoch MacLennan with the Telegrpah, and a meeting with the Daily Mail.
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      10.54 Asked about meeting News International staff after the launch of Operation Weeting, Sir Paul replies he realised the investigation was "of a different order".
      He said he would have been "much more circumspect" about meeting with News International titles.
      10.58 Journalists were "genuinely" interested in Sir Paul's views on terrorism and the issues of the day, he tells the inquiry. He says he last meeting with the Independent was "challenging" and "one of the best meetings he has had".
      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay asks if Stephenson took a policy desicion not to involve himself with News International.S says he was briefed on Operiation Weeting when he returned to work in april 2011 after a four-month break.
      "I realised it was off a different order, I would have been much more circumspect with meeting News International," he says.
      Stephenson met Andy Coulson for dinner when he was editor of the News of the World.

      Ross Hawkins:
      Stephenson at : post op stay at health spa Champneys was "best chance" of getting back to work asap


      Hacking Inquiry:
      Stephenson: Did politicians throughout my career try and influence me to do other things? Yes.


      Telegraph Live Blog:
      11.04 Sir Paul resigned after links emerged between Mr Wallis, Champneys and the Met, he tells the inquiry. Sir Paul stayed at the health centre promoted by Mr Wallis for free for five days.

      I think in the Home Affairs Committee I described it as “damnably unlucky”. I’ve always held a view and if the story becomes about the leader as opposed to what we do, that is a bad place to be. There is no doubt that because of a combination of ill-health, surgery and accident, that my resilience at that time was not what it once was. I don’t think anybody I spoke to agreed with me but it was my decision.
      Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay says the News of the World conducted the Met's press office about the cricket bribery scandal. They then put editor Colin Myler in touch with Stephenson, and there were meetings between the Met's Cressida Dick and the paper. Stephenson says this was "unusual" and it was uncommon to be contacted by newspapers in this way.
       Stephenson says restraining senior officers' ability to write memoirs when they leave the force is "worthy of consideration". "This inquiry and matters around it has put the Met in difficult position," he adds.
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      11.15 Sir Paul's witness statement is now available online. In it, he refers to Op Caryatid.
      It was only after the reopening of the investigation through the establishment of Operation Weeting during my absence from office on sick leave that I became aware that there were issues of substance for further investigation. Up until this point I had no reason to suspect that the initial investigation was other than entirely successful.
      Hacking Inquiry:
      Stephenson: I would not be discomforted by Wallis's name coming out of the hat (filling in for Fedorcio's deputy at MPS).

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson says he played no part in selecting Wallis's PR firm Chamy Media as a consultant to the Met.He says Fedorcio handled the recruitment as his deputy was off sick. "I would have been concerned that Dick was doing the right thing by the organisation, and doing the right thing by his deputy … out of that I've no doubt came the recruitment of neil wallis," he adds.
      He adds that he had no reason to doubt that Wallis was a fit and proper person to get the contract.
      Telegraph Live Blog:
      11.24 Asked by Mr Jay whether he linked Mr Wallis with the phone-hacking scandal, Sir Paul said he did not think about it.

      Sean O'Neill:
      Stephenson statement : Kit Malthouse questioned level of resources devoted to Weeting bcs was driven by political/media "hysteria"
      Stephenson statement: Theresa May and Boris Johnson were "shocked" at my resignation and wanted me to stay 
      Josh Halliday:
      Malthouse said Op Weeting was largely driven by "level of hysteria" in politics and media - Stephenson stmnnt
      Guardian Live blog:
      Stephenson says that in 2009 the Met developed a "fixed mindset and defensive mindset" about the phone-hacking issue.He adds that the Met got "fixed" on a defensive strategy that wouldn't expand its resources without new evidence.
      Stephenson says there was a "flawed assumption" that the 2006 investigation was sufficient, and this was never challenged.
      The Met believed it was "inconceivable" that DAC Peter Clarke had not widened the 2006 inquiry if he had known there was extensive evidence. 
      From Stephenson's Witness Statement:
      On several occasions after Operation Weeting had started and I had returned from sick leave, the Chair of the MPA, Kit Malthouse, expressed a view that we should not be devoting this level of resources to the phone hacking inquiry as a consequence of a largely political and media-driven "level of hysteria".
      Whilst understanding his desire to maximise the resources devoted to current issues of crime and public safety, I pointed out that the disclosure requirements arising from the civil cases left us with little choice but to invest significant resources in servicing this matter.

      Additionally the nature of some of the revelations of media behaviour, particularly towards vulnerable members of the public, made a reopening of the investigation inevitable, from an operational viewpoint.
      Hacking Inquiry:
      Stephenson: I knew Yates was a friend of Wallis. I can't in all honesty say I knew the extent of the friendship.
      Stephenson says never read Jul 2009 Guardian article. : This was clearly a detailed, researched story that made serious allegations.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson says that Yates was the natural officer to conduct a review of phone-hacking evidence in 2009 because of his wider responsibilities.
      He says he heard a radio report on the 9 July 2009 Guardian revelations about phone hacking, but did not connect it to Wallis.
      Lord Justice Leveson asks whether Stephenson ever read the Guardian's "clearly detailed, researched" 2009 story. Stephenson says he doesn't think he did.
      "I would assume Mr Yates would have read the article otherwise he couldn't pick it up on his behalf," he says.
      Jay asks Stephenson why it was appropriate for Yates to deal with the phone-hacking issue given Yates's friendship with Wallis.Stephenson says he would believe in Yates's impartiality, but with hindsight it may have appeared inappropriate.
      He says in the past Met officers have been asked to investigate suspects who were close friends – but admits these were fellow officers.

      Hacking Inquiry:
      Stephenson: I simply have to say it was not a priority for me as the Commissioner [in 09]. It remained one of many pieces of noise.



      suggests Yates' assessment of phone hacking after Guardian 09 story was a "back of the envelope job"
      Ross Hawkins
      gets cross if his qs are interpreted for his views, but doubt Yates will be thrilled to hear that.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Leveson takes Stephenson back to 2006. He says the 2006 investigation was dropped largely as a matter of priority, and whether in 2009 Stephenson could have considered there was more that could be done.
      He says the inquiry was "not a priority" for him as commissioner in 2009.
      After a New York Times article in September 2010, Yates put a small scoping team onto the issue, and he was happy that this was appropriate.
      "But I would not have delved further into it. It was simply not a matter of priority for me," he says.
      Leveson suggests it is "rather odd" that the Met police said unequivocally in a public statement that there was nothing in the new hacking allegations made in 2009.Stephenson says if Yates came to a clear view then he should express that publicly and not "presentationally delay" it.
      Hacking Inquiry:
      Stephenson: Do I believe that there was a deliberate attempt to back off because it was News International? No I do not, sir.
      Stephenson: Fear of taking on a powerful enterprise I don't think comes into it, I'd be strongly disappointed if that was the case. 

      Josh Halliday:
      Stephenson says in Dec 2009 he "just did not get the difference" between what Guardian was alleging and what Yates was briefing

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Stephenson is asked about his meeting with the Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger in December 2009.
      "It was a civil meeting but, quite clearly, there was no meeting of minds there," he says.
      Stephenson says he outlined to Rusbridger the assurances that he had received from Yates, and suggested that the two hold a further meeting.
      "I just did not get the difference [in what the Guardian was alleging and what Stephenson had been told by Yates]," he says.
      "I didn't expect to persuade them or put them on the right track."
      Stephenson says following the New York Times article in September 2010 he would have been briefed by Yates. he would have been briefed again in December 2010, but by then he was ill, he adds.He would have commissioned a new inquiry if the briefings had been difference, he adds.
      The Guardian's Lisa O'Carroll has just tweeted:
      . Elizabeth Filkin: told that private lives of cops kept out of papers in exchange for exclusives


      2 March 2012

      Leveson Inquiry Witness Lists: ( Module 2 ) - 5th - 7th March 2012



      Leveson Inquiry Official Website HERE

      Witnesses Appearing in this second week of Module 2 (The relationships between the press and the Police and the extent to which that has operated in the public interest.) will be:

      Monday March 5th
      Roger Baker ( HM Inspectorate of Constabulary )
      Elizabeth Filkin
      Sir Paul Stephenson ( Former MPS )

      Tuesday March 6th
      Lord Condon ( Former MPS )
      Chief Constable Lynne Owens ( Surrey Police and former MPS )
      Lord Stevens ( Former MPS )

      Wednesday March 7th
      Lord Blair ( Former MPS )
      Tim Godwin ( Former MPS )
      Bob Quick ( Former MPS )

      Links to articles, comment and information relevant to the Leveson Inquiry:
      From Telegraph
      Saturday, March 3rd:
      Sunday, March 4th:

      From the Daily Mail - Via @The Poke (Twitter)


      1 March 2012

      Leveson Inquiry: Module 2 - Press/Police - Day 4

      Lord Justice Leveson
       "The focus of the Inquiry is ‘the culture, practices and ethics of the press’ in the context of the latter’s relationship with the public, the police and politicians. All of these matters overlap, and my goal must be to consider what lessons, if any, may be learned from past events and what recommendations, if any, should be made for the future, in particular as regards press regulation, governance and other systems of oversight."

      Module 2

      "The relationship between the press and the police and the extent to which that has operated in the public interest."

      Useful Links:
      Leveson Inquiry Witness Statements HERE 
      Leveson Inquiry Witness Lists HERE 
      Video Recordings of each day's proceedings HERE
      Live Feed From Leveson Inquiry Site HERE
      BBC Democracy Live Feed HERE 
      Telegraph Live Blog HERE
      Guardian Live Blog HERE
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      Links to today's articles, blogs, comment and information relevant to the Leveson Inquiry:
       The inquiry has started with a rebuke by Lord Justice Leveson for core participants who allegedly have leaked witness statements before they are formally read into the inquiry.

      #Leveson RT @skymartinbrunt: Virginia Wheeler, 32, Sun's Defence editor, held on corruption allegation in Scot Yard bribes probe 

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            Thursday, March 1st 2012 
          Link to yesterday's Hearing HERE

          Today's Witnesses:
          Peter Clarke (former MPS)
          Andy Hayman (former MPS)
          John Yates (former MPS)
          John Yates, Peter Clarke, Andy Hayman

          Peter Clarke



                Telegraph Live Blog HERE
                Guardian Live Blog HERE

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke joined the Met in 1977 and retired in 2008 when he was assistant commissioner, specialist operations.
                When he was commander of royalty and diplomatic protection he had very little contact with the press, he explains. When he went to the anti-terrorist branch, there was a very clear operational requirement to have more contact with the media. 
                Clarke says he had off-the-record briefings and lunches with the Crime Reporters' Association when he was head of the anti-terrorism unit. He says there was clear scepticism about terrorism in the late 1990s and it was felt it was important to have more informal contact with the media.
                Ben Fenton:
                Clarke had mtg with NI in autumn 2004.Rupert Murdoch unexpectedly joined the mtg.[I think this was the subject of a recent leak]

                Ross Hawkins:
                Clarke at : reason I had engagement with media was to help protect the public; not interested in trying to make police look good

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke says he could give off-the-record briefings to "responsible journalists" about alleged terrorists who were facing legal action. He was "safe in the knowledge" that the journalists would not report what he was telling them because it was part of the case that was coming to court and would have been sub judice.

                Hacked Off:
                Jay refers to Clarke's hospitality register showing a 2005 rugby league game and 2006 football match. CRA lunches not on register.


                @skymarkwhite:
                Clarke says in 30 years of policing the extent of police leaks to the media has probably been exaggerated

                Telegraph Live Blog:
                10.27 Mr Jay QC asks about leaks of "highly sensitive operational intelligence." They are done by "misguided" individuals. "I do not know what motivates them," he says. He suspects it may be for "short term presentational advantage".
                Leaks are rare. Mr Paddick gave evidence earlier in the week about a major raid on a house on 29 July 2005, which he implied reached the media because of a leak. Mr Clarke says the raid was based on overnight intelligence. The media were turning up very quickly to such raids - but because local roads were closed and people evacuated from their homes, he suggests.
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke says there is a need for guidelines for contact with the press but stresses they "do need to be flexible and do need to take account of the particular circumstances".He says it would be unhelpful to have rigid guidelines that would force the higher ranks of the force to comply with the same rules as junior officers.
                Telegraph Live Blog:
                10.34 Clarke is asked about Operation Caryatid - the first probe into phone hacking.
                Above Clarke on the investigation was Asst. Commissioner Andy Hayman. Clarke told him in around May 2006 that Mulcaire and Goodman were "coming into view" - until then it was not clear who was behind the voicemail interception.
                But Clarke did not see the senior investigating officers' decision logs for the case until 2011. That is normal practice, he says.

                Ross Hawkins:
                Clarke wake of 7/7 borrowed over 1000 officers, airline plot involved some 300 officers


                 Andy Davies:
                 As at HASC last yr, Clarke outlines how terror threat in 2006 was stretching police resources.


                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke says it is highly likely that others were involved in phone hacking:
                It's the cynical view of an old police officer that if someone is arrested for burglary it's only a slim chance it's their first time as a burglar.


                P Clarke "no cooperation whatsoever from News International"
                 Steve Hewlett


                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke says the parameters were set at the beginning of the phone–hacking investigation - which involved the expectation of arrests, but also deterrents to prevent it happening in the future. This involved working with the mobile phone companies.

                Telegraph Live Blog:
                10.53 What was Clarke's view of News International's efforts to obstruct the probe by not handing over evidence?

                "It became immediately apparent we weren't going to get any co-operation whatsoever."


                It was unusual. Most large companies "bend over backwards" to protect their reputations by helping the police. But "this was a closing of the ranks very early on."

                Normally that attitude would make a police team "more dogged". But again, Clarke cites his other work.
                The MPS legal services and the CPS considered getting a magistrates's warrant to obtain evidence.
                Clarke decided not to analyse the 11,000 pages of Mulcaire's notes in September 2006. There is no document of that decision.

                 Hacked Off:
                Clarke: In Sep 2006 I was briefed. Not anywhere near top of concerns at the time. We decided not to proceed with investigation.

                Clarke: Every phone number would have had to be researched and subject to individual RIPA applications.


                Clarke: It was disproportionate in terms of other competing demands at the time.



                Ben Fenton:
                Clarke says he was aware of the corner names.[3 journalists other than Goodman commissioning Mulcaire to hack phones]


                Tom Symonds:
                DAC Peter Clarke - "I haven't seen anything that would cause me to make a different decision" re expanding phone-hacking inquiry


                Guardian Live Blog:
                Lord Justice Leveson says his first area of interest is "the systemic issue": whether Clarke was told that there was enough evidence to take wider action. Leveson says that is "What the police are facing as you well know, is that this was a decision to cover it all up."
                His second concern is what was done with the victims of phone hacking and informing them.
                Leveson stresses that there were several references to the then deputy prime minister, John Prescott, and his assistant in Mulcaire's notes. However, Clarke says this is not something the police were aware of at the time.
                Clarke repeats his earlier assertions that it was difficult to turn information into evidence that could lead to further arrests.
                "Trying to prove a conspiracy within a major newspaper, it wouldn't get you to the position, or was unlikely to get you to the position, of a successful prosecution," he adds.

                Ross Hawkins:
                Clarke : wouldn't have investigated even if he'd known witness protection scheme was compromised


                Ross Hawkins:
                Jay suggests had Prescott been informed might not have been possible to put the lid on this, would have been "explosion"

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Leveson puts it to Clarke that he could say the force just didn't consider it important enough to investigate phone hacking.
                Clarke says Leveson has got it nearly "spot on".
                The minutiae of whether there was circumstantial evidence against journalist A, B, C, is a minor consideration in comparison to … a threat to the life a member of the British public.
                Invasions of privacy are odious …. but to put to bluntly they don't kill you, terrorists do.
                Hacked Off:
                Clarke: It wouldn't be for me to go direct to Lord Prescott.Might have been forced to carry out an investigation I didn't want to

                Hacked Off:
                Clarke: Briefing paper went from the Met to the Home Office. Dr Reid (then Home Sec) was aware.


                Ross Hawkins:
                Important suggestion that then home sec John Reid received briefing on phone hacking


                Guardian Live Blog:
                Clarke says he briefed Hayman in the runup the arrest of Goodman and Mulcaire, but he doesn't remember specifics.
                He does not remember briefing Hayman on the decision not to broaden the investigation into phone hacking. He does not remember anything Hayman might or might not have said about this decision.
                He says it was "absolutely" his understanding that Prescott ought to have been notified by the police.
                Prescott was not, however, informed.
                Clarke says he doesn't think the police made a mistake on extending the phone hacking inquiry, but admits its strategy for informing victims was not so successful."To this day I don't reallly understand why it [the strategy] didn't work," he says.
                Clarke reveals that David Blunkett, the then home secretary, was personally informed by the then commissioner.
                To this day, he does not know why Prescott wasn't informed.
                Jay has now finished questioning Clarke.Leveson says there is no doubt that "there is rather an unfortunate catalogue of events" in relation to the phone-hacking inquiry in 2006, the result of which is now "potentially extremely damaging" and therefore needs to be explained.
                He says he recognises that he views material from a policeman's eyes, but he would like to know if there is anything Clarke would like to add by way of comment on his role in this operation, or in relation to what he knows what happened subsequently.
                Jay asks Clarke if he had any contact with Yates in 2009 in relation to phone hacking. No, says Clarke, but he did have discussions with him in July 2011 before their select committe appearances.


                John Yates - Interview Via Satellite Link From Bahrain


                Telegraph Live Blog HERE
                Guardian Live Blog HERE

                Telegraph Live Blog:
                12.05 Former Asst Commissioner John Yates is being interviewed by video link. He works for the police force of Bahrain.
                He conducted a review in July 2009 of the Operation Caryatid phone hacking investigation.
                Yates describes being the “public face for policing an policy matters” in his written statement 
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Yates says he had a "healthy and transparent" relationship with the media that may have included informal lunches.The vast majority of his dealings wth the media would have been to do with the strategic policies he was exposed to, whether it be data retention, rape policy and so on.
                I think there's great value in that, in testing policy, testing views and getting views back. The last thing we would want is policy in a bubble or in a vacuum where policing isn't connected to other thinking.

                Hacked Off:
                Yates: I'm firmly of the view that I was briefed against on an industrial scale during the cash for peerages investigation.
                Yates: Casual meetings with journalists involving drinks and coffee not included on hospitality register as reciprocal.
                 Yates: There was a senior management meeting and then deputy commissioner advised me, and others, to reduce contact with media.


                Guardian Live Blog:
                Yates says he was "briefed against on an industrial scale" when he led the police's "cash for honours" investigation in 2006/07 and that this did not help when he was involved in anti-terrorism.It put me in the public eye – that was unhelpful … allegations made against me … I was in the counter-terrorist [unit], that [media comment] was not necesarily a good thing," he says.
                The inquiry is now looking at the police hospitality register. It would not include any occasion when drinks or coffee were bought.Yates says if it's reciprocal it doens't count. "If you are bought a drink and buy one back I don't consider that hospitality," he says.
                He says he would have used his "personal money" and wouldn't have claimed for these drinks.
                Yates adds that he would have had a drink in "sensible quantities" on occasions in evening meetings with journalists.

                Ross Hawkins:
                June 2009 John Yates had meal with Neil Wallis - Notw exec - was private meeting with friends he says
                Yates says they were likely to have discussed boring things like football, not policing.
                Nick Wallis certainly was a good friend says Yates at #leveson, though hasn't seen him for nigh on a year
                 
                Hacked Off:
                Yates: Went to two or three football matches with Wallis. I've always been completely open that he's a good friend.

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Jay is now looking at a compilation of his diary entries involving contact with the media. He asks Yates about an entry for 28 April 2009 when a dinner was organised with an "SPS", (Met press chief) Dick Fedorcio and "NW" (likely to be News of the World executive Neil Wallis).That was at a restaurant called Luciano's. Yates didn't attend the dinner in the end and doesn't know what the purpose of the meeting was, he says.
                He went to Scalinis with Neil Wallis, executive editor of NOTW; Nick Candy, the property developer; and Neil Reading, a leading PR man. "It was a private appointment, with friends. It was nothing to do with policing at all." Candy paid. Yates says he did not discuss policing and Wallis did not discuss the press. They discussed "boring stuff like football".
                Article from Telegraph about Nick Candy, Yates' 'friend'
                Article From Wall Street Journal on Neil Wallis
                He and Wallis went to the football two or three times together. Wallis supported Manchester. Yates supported Liverpool. One match was Liverpool v Arsenal. Wallis paid for tickets; Yates paid for travel. "It was pro-rata really."
                He adds: "He certainly was a good friend" but they haev not met for a year.
                Business chat on the train was always "On the margins". They liked to talk about "family life" and "life outside the Met."

                Hacked Off:
                Entry shows Wallis attending meeting at Scotland Yard in Sep 09. Yates: Could be meeting about his company Shami.
                Yates: If someone in organisation arrested that doesn't mean you cut off relationships with very influential section of the media.

                Hacked Off:
                Jay: Diary shows meetings with Witherow (ST) and Hanning (IoS). Yates: JH did see a grander conspiracy, I gave him context.

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Jay asks about meetings with Sunday Times editor John Witherow. These meetings, he points out, were entered into the register. All the meetings were "à deux" – that is, there were no others present.Yates also had meetings with James Hanning, deputy editor of the Independent on Sunday. Hanning has covered phone hacking and gave evidence to the Leveson inquiry about his meetings with the late Sean Hoare, the former News of the World journalist who blew the whistle on phone hacking.
                Yates describes Hanning as "a very interesting interrogator".
                Yates is asked whether Hanning shared with him his belief that knowledge of phone hacking went up the chain at News International.
                "If the point you are getting to – did he give me any suggestion of evidence that enabled me to do anything with it – the answer is none," says Yates.
                Jay puts it to Yates that Hanning also challenged him on his meetings with Wallis.
                Yates says Hanning talked to him about the relationship with far more important people in the Murdoch stable than Wallis, who then didn't work for the force.
                Jay returns to the subject of Lucy Panton, the crime editor of the News of the World, and is inquiring about an email from NoW news editor James Mellor to her.
                The email says:
                Think John Yates could be crucial here, have you spoken to him, really need an exclusive splash line, time to call in all those bottles of champagne.
                Yates says it related to the weekend of 29/30 October 2010 when there had been a printer cartridge bomb found on a DHL flight.
                He says there was no favour being called in and the "champagne" reference is simply a turn of phrase.
                Yates may once have shared a bottle of champagne with Panton, but it would have been with other people too, he explains.
                Jay is now discussing Yates's alleged involvement in securing a job at the Met for Neil Wallis's daughter Amy. Yates passed on an email regarding this to the Met's HR department and Jay says this email identifies the fact that he knows the father.
                The former policeman says there was nothing untoward about her appointment.
                1.08pm: Jay returns to the subject of Lucy Panton, the crime editor of the News of the World, and is inquiring about an email from NoW news editor James Mellor to her.
                Yates is now being asked about the phone hacking inquiry in 2006.
                He says it was clear from the solicitors' letters that were traded in August 2006 that there was "deliberate obfuscation around all these matters" by News International.
                Yates was not part of the investigative team at the time.
                He is asked whether he was briefed by the investigation team at the time.
                Yates says he recalls the phrase "a Mexican stand-off" at News International's Wapping HQ when the police turned up with a warrant but he says that probably would have happened at any newspaper; it would not be unusual for lawyers to try to test a warrant.

                #Leveson RT @skymartinbrunt: Virginia Wheeler, 32, Sun's Defence editor, held on corruption allegation in Scot Yard bribes probe


                Ross Hawkins:

                Yates accepts he made a "fundamental misjudgement" in how he defined phone hacking victims

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Jay asks about how the police responded to the Guardian article of 9 July 2009 showing that the publisher of the News of the World had paid out more than £1m to settle phone-hacking cases.
                Yates said he started considering the article about 7am.
                Later that day, at about 11am, he was asked by Met commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson to establish the facts of the matter.
                There was a formal meeting at 11am but there had been several meetings before this with Keith Surtees and others who had worked on the initial inquiry.
                This is Yates's statement from 9 July 2009:
                Where there was clear evidence that people had been the subject of tapping, they were all contacted by the police.
                This case has been the subject of the most careful investigation by very experienced detectives … no additional evidence has come to light since this case has concluded.
                I therefore consider that no further investigation is required.
                 Yates says Jay is inferring more significance to the day's events than warranted.
                "It was an article in a newspaper, it wasn't a formal review," he says.
                Telegraph Live Blog:

                13.28 Yates is asked about the meeting where they reviewed hacking following an article in the Guardian alleging widespread hacking. The big meeting started at 11am. But Yates says he received "informal" briefings from several people before that time. Jay is trying to establish exactly how much time was spent on the meeting.
                Yates says such reviews of cold cases happened quite often and in an informal manner. He is suggesting it has been granted greater significance than it deserves. "It was an article in a newspaper. It wasn't a formal review."
                Guardian live Blog:
                Jay asks why didn't it cross Yates's mind that his friendship with Wallis might give rise to the perception that he would not be impartial in his dealings with the News of the World. Didn't any "alarm bells" ring?
                Yates says:
                I was looking at this dispassionately from the evidential perspective. I have a reputation for doing difficult things.
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Leveson says Yates is entitled to be friends with whoever he wishes, but there may have been a perception that he was an interested party because Wallis was a close friend.
                He suggests that Yates should have left it to another assistant commissioner to make the statement about the Guardian article.
                Yates replies: "I take you point about the perception, but it didn't appear to be a problem then and it didn't appear to be a problem for others."
                Yates says he did not get evidence until the end of the 2010 that Lord Prescott's phone was hacked.
                I cannot tell you the amount of times that he sought information … It would be scores of times that, the level of concern, is commensurate about the number of times I sought clarity about it … right up to the end of 2010 that a piece of paper that showed … that was the first time.
                Telegraph Live Blog:
                13.52 Yates made "scores" of inquiries into allegations about John Prescott's phone being hacked. It was raised at the 2009 review.
                This causes Leveson "real surprise." We now know his phone was hacked. "I am disturbed that your persistant requests did not yield the answer."
                There was an "indexing issue" Yates says.
                Leveson is baffled. Operation Caryatid, in 2006, knew about the allegation on day one. "You ought to know that the investigating detective who interviewed Glenn Mulcaire within a day of his arrest made the link and asked Glenn Mulcaire about that person."
                Yates says he checked that with Phil Williams, who led the probe. Williams did not know that. "I'm only as good as my briefing."
                He adds: "It is deeply regretable and I count account for it I'm afraid." He did not want to mislead the Deputy PM. He was "desperate" to get to the bottom of it.


                Alan Rusbridger:
                [The point abt piece in July 09 was that it *wasn't* new evidence. Cops had it]

                John Prescott has just tweeted:
                and
                and
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Yates says he was "surprised" by evidence given by officers at the inquiry yesterday that there was circumstantial evidence pointing the finger at other News of the World journalist.
                "I'm surprised it was phrased that way because it's never been phrased that way to me," he says.
                Yates says he does not think he was given any indication that there was, as Jay put it, "circumstantial inferential evidence implicating a number of other journalists".

                David Allen Green:
                Yates, of course, used libel lawyers to try and prevent criticism by my friend lawyer Mark Lewis.

                 Guardian Live Blog:
                 Yates says it was pointless pursuing Mulcaire again as he has already served time for phone hacking.
                I took the view, rightly or wrongly, that more evidence against Mulcaire would actually take us nowhere at all. He was never going to stand trial again for phone hacking. He had been dealt with, sentenced and that process had been complete.
                New York Times article mentioned during Yates' interview


                 Hacked Off:
                Yates statement: I believe I was a victim of phone hacking as I stated to HASC.


                Guardian Live Blog:
                The inquiry hears that Andy Coulson, who had resigned as News of the World editor in January 2007 and was working as an adviser to the Conservative party, was told about the hacking in July 2009 "as a victim".An internal police memo noted:
                DCS [Phil] Williams update from 10 July 2009 PW informed Andy Coulson on these issues. He took it well..
                Yates says "the focus of the article was very much inferenced around him so as he was a victim and we knew he was a victim".
                Jay corrects this: "The article was suggesting that he might be one of the conspirators, not that he was a victim."

                did I hear right? MPS spoke to Coulsen as a phack victim in July 09 whilst telling the world there was no new evidence? Er.....
                Steve Hewlett

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Yates says he was himself a victim of phone hacking.
                Jay asks what evidence he has.
                Yates says he was abroad at particularly difficult meetings at the Met and every time messages were left on the phone he couldn't access it and had to reset his pin number.
                "Knowing the modus operandi, I was 99.9% that my phone was being hacked," says Yates.
                Jay puts it to Yates that "you are now applying different evidential standards to yourself".
                 Yates denies that he was unduly influenced by his friendship with Wallis or his contacts with News International.
                I absolutely know and I guarantee that none of that played any part in my decision making. My conscience is completely clear on that.
                Jay says Met press chief Dick Fedorcio has submitted a statement saying that he was aware Yates and Wallis knew each other through work, but didn't know they had significant contact outside work. Asked if Fedorcio knew about the dinners with Wallis, Yates says: "I imagine so," adding the dinners were not secret as he recorded them in his work diary even though they were private arrangements.
                John Prescott has just tweeted:
                 The BBC's Ross Hawkins has just tweeted:
                Leveson asks if the police could not have taken a different approach and conducted a scoping exercise to review what might be needed to investigate the circumstantial evidence they had.
                Yates says at the time there was no justification to put 40 police officers on the phone-hacking investigation for a year.
                He said there was "no evidence to support it as a resource decision, the public sector cuts were kicking in" and "two people had gone to prison".
                "It wouldn't have occured to me, I deeply regret it now, in terms of what happened," he adds.
                Andy Hayman


                Telegraph Live Blog HERE
                Guardian Live Blog HERE

                Guardian Live Blog:
                Hayman was in charge of Operation Caryatid, the Met's 2006 phone-hacking investigation, but was not involved on a day-to-day basis.
                He concluded there was "benefit on both sides" for a relationship between the press and the police but the ground rules had to be established.
                I saw that at worst the media's objective [could be] to get exclusive across a line at the other side at the worst, [on] the police side might cosy up and start leaking information to the media.
                @SkyFixerJim:
                #Leveson back. Andy Hayman in the chair now. Not directly involved with Op Caryatid but as the ex top cop says, the buck stopped with me.

                Hacked Off:
                Jay: You told Select Committee your career choice always between police and journalism. Hayman: Side issue to terrorist threat.
                Hayman: There are different styles and approaches in the media. I realise that there may be other agendas people might exploit.
                Hayman: Spoke at Society of Editor conference. The social scene of interacting was businesslike and to develop relationships.
                Ross Hawkins:
                Jay quotes from L Blair book accusing Hayman of briefing media in "careless and disloyal manner" #leveson; Hayman disagrees
                Hacked Off:
                Jay: Dinner Nov 05 with Lucy Panton in register,what was discussed? Hayman: Given timing, NoW keen to run anti-terrorism campaigns.
                Hacked Off:
                Jay: NoW meeting 3 days later not in register. Hayman: Can only guess it was something to do with the same campaign.
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Hayman is being asked as implied criticism that he spent too much time with the media.An internal memo suggests that "Perhaps Andy got carried away with the power and the prestige" of his job and may have "developed a lifestyle of later evenings" involving socialising with the press.
                Hacked Off:
                Jay: April 06 with ed (Coulson) and deputy ed (Wallis) of NoW. Hayman: Arranged by Dick F, I think it was just to meet them.

                IndexLeveson:
                Jay listing a number of meetings with Neil Wallis, Lucy Panton, and means of payment


                Hacked Off:
                Jay: Another lunch for nine people - £566 bill £181.50 on alcohol - paid for on Amex. Hayman:Away day for force, gesture of thanks.
                 Jay: CRA event the same day. You spent £47 on bottle of champagne. Might have been for Panton? Hayman: I can't remember.
                 
                Guardian Live Blog:
                Jay says Hayman's expenses claims were investigated. He cites an expense claim in February 2007 – "Shepherd's restaurant, lunch for nine". It was paid for by American Express and cost £566, of which £188.50 was spent on alcohol.
                Hayman says he took his top team out; the people who would normally have gone on awaydays.
                They had sacrificed holidays since 2005 and "really worked their socks off"; he paid for the meal as a Met gesture to their families and to mark a colleague's promotion.
                Telegraph Live Blog:
                15.56 On retirement from the Met, Hayman was offered TV appearances and columns. He went to an agent for support. News International "got wind" of it, and also put a bid in. He considered the propriety of it, and reflected on how retired sportsmen and politicians take columns. He never considered the fact that NOTW is part of the Times stable, and at no point did the editors or reporters seek to take advantage of his connections. It felt very separate to the red-top world.
                But he adds: "If I had my time again, and I make that link, presentationally that is difficult."
                "It's a perception thing, isn't it," says Leveson.
                Guardian Live Blog:
                 Hayman is asked how regular his contact was with his deputy Peter Clarke, the head of the anti-terrorism unit during the 2006 Operation Caryatid investigation into phone hacking.
                He says he the number of times he talked to Clarke about Caryatid was "on one hand".
                He says micro-management of day-to-day detail would have been counterproductive and he needed to let people get on with their jobs.
                Hayman allocated the phone-hacking investigation to Clarke.
                He said he would only be briefed in exceptional circumstances. He says by way of example that it was "significant" that he didn't know when the arrests were going to be made, or search warrants were issued.  
                Telegraph Live Blog:
                16.02 Hayman is asked about Operation Caryatid.
                He says his role was not to get into "too much detail" into investigations. His job was to create an "umbrella" and "empower people", backing them with resources and protecting from outside interference.
                Like the other officers, his focus was on terrorism at that time, not hacking.
                Guardian Live Blog:
                In a column in the Times in July 2009 (paywall), Hayman wrote:
                The Guardian has said it understands that the police file shows that between 2,000 and 3,000 individuals had their mobile phones hacked into, far more than was ever officially admitted during the investigation and prosecution of Clive Goodman. Yet, my recollection is different. As I recall the list of those targeted, which was put together from records kept by Glen Mulcaire, ran to several hundred names. Of these, there was a small number — perhaps a handful — where there was evidence that the phones had actually been tampered with.
                Had there been evidence of tampering in the other cases, that would have been investigated as would the slightest hint that others were involved.
                Hayman says he had a cursory sight of the list. At the time there were actually 419 names on the list, says Jay.
                Yates says that there were only "a handful" of numbers tampered with is his recollection.
                Hayman is now being shown a matrix of names by the inquiry. He says he does not recall a matrix, but a list.He says he remembers that he was shown the list by John McDowall, who was standing in as Peter Clarke's deputy.
                The conversation "lasted less than, I don't know, four or five minutes". He had popped into Hayman's office and said something along the lines: "Just so you're aware, the investigation team appear to be creating a list and here's a list of names, we don't know what the status is, haven't got a clue where this is going, but we just want you to know there's a list emerging".
                Yates says he didn't think any more of it.
                Leveson says the meeting must have made an "impact" as Hayman was able to recall it three years later for his Times column.